God's Choice would be your choice
My last post about the Pope received the comment "Cause people have free will = God won't interfere with people killing people."
I plan to do a longer post on issues related to this but for now I'll just say that the notion that God can be omnipotent AND that people have free will is incoherent. A human could not have 'independent choice' if another being is 'all powerful.'
Thoughts?
I plan to do a longer post on issues related to this but for now I'll just say that the notion that God can be omnipotent AND that people have free will is incoherent. A human could not have 'independent choice' if another being is 'all powerful.'
Thoughts?
posted by That which is called Darren at 3:21 PM
4 Comments:
If I'm understanding you correctly, you are saying humans are free to react (or not) when God does something.
But, if God is omnipotent, then God could decide for you to do something. Ultimately, His choice would overrule yours. Hence, no free will.
If I correctly understand "Me"'s last post, s/he (oh, for the want of an English language gender neutral term!) has just agreed with Darren's statement that an omnipotent god contradicts human free will. Though I have no certain convictions on this argument (as Darren knows), allow me to contribute what I think is a vital, albeit Christian, fact to this discussion.
Since we're talking about the Pope, then i assume we are discussing the Christian "God". As far as I learned as a child, the concurrence of human free will and an omnipotent God is made possible by the fact that God decided to give humans free will, so that their love of him would be a true one. Forgive me for not quoting a reference, but my copy of the Bible is in my parents' basement. . . . I think.
While Sara is correct in that "God gave man free will" it doesn't change the illogicity of the statement. If people truly can act of their own accord, then God isn't omnipotent. The converse is also true.
I think that's all there is too say unless I keep repeating myself.
Darren, I agree: A truly literal interpretation of free will and omnipotence makes the two logically incompatible.
But, who said God has to be logical?
Now, if you excuse me, I’m going to try to make sense/find a way to disagree with this website:
http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/god_logic.html
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